{"id":3358,"date":"2014-08-12T20:55:06","date_gmt":"2014-08-13T02:55:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/?p=3358"},"modified":"2014-08-13T08:10:42","modified_gmt":"2014-08-13T14:10:42","slug":"regrets-what-ifs-in-the-wake-of-ndos-defeat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/2014\/08\/regrets-what-ifs-in-the-wake-of-ndos-defeat\/","title":{"rendered":"Looking at regrets, what-ifs in the wake of NDO&#8217;s defeat"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_3359\"  class=\"wp-caption module image alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 771px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"addboard wp-image-3359 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/NDO-new-mayor-1-of-1.jpg\" alt=\"Mayor\" width=\"771\" height=\"541\" srcset=\"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/NDO-new-mayor-1-of-1.jpg 771w, https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/NDO-new-mayor-1-of-1-336x235.jpg 336w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 771px) 100vw, 771px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Ed Kemmick\/Last Best News<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mayor in the middle: Tom Hanel is flanked by City Council members Becky Bird, left, and Rich McFadden. Behind the mayor is City Clerk Cari Martin.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Jani McCall didn\u2019t sleep much Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>She is the Billings City Council member who first suggested, in December, that the city consider a nondiscrimination ordinance. Tuesday morning, the NDO went down on a 6-5 vote, with Mayor Tom Hanel casting the deciding vote shortly after 3 a.m.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI slept for about three hours and I\u2019ve been thinking about it ever since,\u201d McCall said Tuesday afternoon<\/p>\n<p>She kept asking herself if there was any way she or other supporters could have changed the outcome, but the vote came suddenly, after relatively little discussion. Almost before she knew it, seven months of intense politicking and wrenching public debate was over and the NDO was dead.<\/p>\n<p>Councilman Brent Cromley was also caught by surprise. It was he who made the motion to approve the NDO after a public hearing that lasted nearly five hours.<\/p>\n<p>The NDO would have prohibited discrimination in housing, employment and public accommodations against people on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identification or expression. It had been dissected, debated, altered and tweaked at a series of council meetings and work sessions, but it still seemed that the split was 5-5, with the mayor cast as the tie-breaker.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3362\"  class=\"wp-caption module image alignright\" style=\"max-width: 133px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"addboard wp-image-3362 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/Brent-Cromley-1-of-1.jpg\" alt=\"Brent Cromley\" width=\"133\" height=\"140\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Brent Cromley<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Voting with the mayor to kill the NDO were Mike Yakawich, Denis Pitman, Angela Cimmino, Rich McFadden and Shaun Brown. Besides Cromley and McCall, those in favor were Becky Bird, Al Swanson and Ken Crouch.<\/p>\n<p>Cromley said he decided to move for an NDO that was everything supporters had wanted from the beginning. His motion stripped the ordinance of a provision that would have required transgender people to use bathrooms or locker rooms \u201cdesignated for their anatomical sex, regardless of their gender identity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He also moved that any damages awarded to a successful claimant on the basis of the NDO be determined by the Municipal Court judge, rather than having fines capped by the City Council.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, he wanted the ordinance to take effect 30 days after approval on second reading \u2014 the normal procedure for ordinances \u2014 rather than waiting for the state attorney general to decide whether the city had the authority to pass such an ordinance.<\/p>\n<p>The council itself, against the advice of city staff and NDO supporters, had requested an AG opinion in June. They were told Monday night that the AG\u2019s office would decide within 30 days whether to consider the request, and then take four to five months to issue an opinion, if there was to be one.<\/p>\n<p>Cromley said later Tuesday that he assumed someone on the council would move to amend his motion, to add some of those provisions back in to make it palatable to opponents.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3363\"  class=\"wp-caption module image alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 771px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"addboard wp-image-3363 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/NDO-new-crowd-1-of-1.jpg\" alt=\"Meet\" width=\"771\" height=\"481\" srcset=\"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/NDO-new-crowd-1-of-1.jpg 771w, https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/NDO-new-crowd-1-of-1-336x209.jpg 336w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 771px) 100vw, 771px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Ed Kemmick\/Last Best News<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Opponents of the nondiscrimination ordinance, in white, and supporters, in orange, crowd the City Council chamber Monday night.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>But when McFadden, one of the council members who seemed mostly strongly opposed to the NDO, moved to amend it to cap damage awards and to put the locker room exclusion back in, nobody seconded the motion.<\/p>\n<p>At that point, Pitman said perhaps it was best to vote on Cromley\u2019s motion, since it contained what NDO supporters always wanted. After all those months of debate, he said, why talk about it for a few more hours?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think Denis called it right,\u201d Cromley said. \u201cHe said there\u2019s no reason with trying to fool around and amend it.<\/p>\n<p>But that lost chance is what deprived McCall of sleep.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have played through it in my head so many times. \u2026 I have some regrets, a lot of regrets, how that all played out last night,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p><div class=\"well\"><div class=\"dfad dfad_pos_1 dfad_first\" id=\"_ad_652\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/mjhWkW\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/201703_capeair_variable.jpg\" alt=\"CapreAir_Variable\" width=\"510\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18069\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/div>McCall said she envisioned someone making an original motion to approve an NDO with all the compromises the council had worked through earlier. Then, there could have been motions to make amendments stripping some of those provisions out.<\/p>\n<p>As it was, she said, when Cromley moved for an NDO with all the compromises gone, they were almost forced to have a vote on it as is. And supporters expected amendatory motions to come from their ranks. McFadden caught them off guard by offering the amendments himself.<\/p>\n<p>Another factor, McCall said, was that Hanel might have joined the opponents no matter what compromises were made in the NDO.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3364\"  class=\"wp-caption module image alignright\" style=\"max-width: 140px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"addboard wp-image-3364 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jani-McCall-1-of-1-140x140.jpg\" alt=\"Jani\" width=\"140\" height=\"140\" srcset=\"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jani-McCall-1-of-1-140x140.jpg 140w, https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jani-McCall-1-of-1-60x60.jpg 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 140px) 100vw, 140px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jani McCall<\/p><\/div>\n<p>She said she could see that Hanel had a legal pad with handwritten notes on it long before the vote, meaning he was already prepared to explain his \u201cno\u201d vote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI really think he intended to vote against it,\u201d she said. \u201cThat (the legal pad) gave me the sense he knew what he wanted to do with this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cromley said he and McCall did talk about how he would make the motion to approve the NDO, but they made no other strategic decisions. Cromley said he expected Hanel to bring up his concerns with the NDO, allowing supporters to offer amendments.<\/p>\n<p>But Hanel said nothing during the council debate. He waited until the vote was 5-5 and then, before casting his vote, picked up his legal pad and spoke for nearly eight minutes. He did not argue for or against the NDO or try to justify his vote. He spoke of his love for Billings and his sense of fairness, then ended simply by saying, \u201cI do not think Billings is ready at this time\u201d for an NDO.<\/p>\n<p>Hanel did not return phone calls seeking his comments Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>Pitman said he was opposed to the NDO because he believed it would create an illusion of safety without actually making anyone safer. And though he was concerned about predators claiming to be transgender going into women\u2019s facilities, he said he was mostly concerned about having a hodgepodge of NDOs.<\/p>\n<p>Four other cities in Montana have already passed NDOs, as have hundreds of cities and a handful of states around the country. Having all these separate laws floating around seemed to make a mockery of equality for all, he said.<\/p>\n<p>If there are to be such protections, he said, they should come from Congress or state legislatures. For now, the City Council has some major issues on its plate, including budget shortfalls, public safety needs and homelessness.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019ve been so tied up with the NDO that everything else seems to be on the back burner,\u201d he said. \u201cWe\u2019ve got to get back to running the city.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cromley said he would consider reintroducing an NDO, but probably not soon.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t want to appear stubborn, but on the other hand, I do feel strongly about it,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>McCall had similar thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need to get together, those of us who are like-minded on this, and talk about what went wrong and what went right and kind of sketch out what our approach is going to be,\u201d she said. But for now, she added, \u201cI think it\u2019s pretty much a done deal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Liz Welch, of Billings, the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender coordinator for the Montana chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, said she was saddened and disappointed by the vote, but energized by the effort to pass the NDO.<\/p>\n<p>On Monday, sitting with other NDO supporters inside the First Congregational United Church of Christ near City Hall, she said, \u201cI kind of came to this epiphany.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She was struck by the number of teenagers there, kids who might not ordinarily have gotten involved in local politics.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey were engaged and they were excited and they were nervous,\u201d she said. \u201cThis really meant something to them,\u201d and she expects them to stay active in politics and in the fight for LGBT rights, which she called \u201cthe human rights issue of our time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Cromley said that regardless of what happens in Billings, progress is being made on LGBT rights. He said it\u2019s only a matter of time before Montana\u2019s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage will be found unconstitutional by a higher court, as has happened all over the country.<\/p>\n<p>That day will come, he said, and if Billings still hasn\u2019t passed an NDO, the city could find itself in an odd position.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI see us having same-sex marriages in the state,\u201d he said, \u201cbut they may not be able to take their honeymoons here.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jani McCall didn\u2019t sleep much Tuesday. She is the Billings City Council member who first suggested, in December, that the city consider a nondiscrimination ordinance. Tuesday morning, the NDO went down on a 6-5 vote, with Mayor Tom Hanel casting the deciding vote shortly after 3 a.m.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3359,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15,14],"tags":[392,312,645,302,300,828,368],"class_list":["post-3358","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-billings","category-news","tag-aclu","tag-brent-cromley","tag-denis-pitman","tag-jani-mccall","tag-liz-welch","tag-ndo","tag-tom-hanel","prominence-top-story"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3358","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3358"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3358\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3359"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3358"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3358"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3358"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}