{"id":2216,"date":"2014-05-25T06:51:18","date_gmt":"2014-05-25T12:51:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/?p=2216"},"modified":"2014-05-26T21:14:26","modified_gmt":"2014-05-27T03:14:26","slug":"real-prayer-doesnt-need-government-sanction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/2014\/05\/real-prayer-doesnt-need-government-sanction\/","title":{"rendered":"Real prayer doesn&#8217;t need government sanction"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>By DAVID CRISP<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong> BILLINGS OUTPOST<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Billings Gazette Editor Darrell Ehrlick began his May 18 column with the phrase \u201cGod Bless America,\u201d then quickly added that he meant it literally, not \u201cas some obligatory phrase tacked onto the end of a speech.\u201d<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>His need to explain what he really meant tells you almost everything you need to know about how degraded religious speech has become in America. Even our Kenyan-Marxist-Muslim-socialist president ends his speeches with \u201cGod bless America,\u201d proof enough to any real conservative that the phrase has been robbed of all meaning.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_810\"  class=\"wp-caption module image alignleft\" style=\"max-width: 140px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"addboard wp-image-810 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/Davids-Head-copy-140x140.jpg\" alt=\"David Crisp\" width=\"140\" height=\"140\" srcset=\"https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/Davids-Head-copy-140x140.jpg 140w, https:\/\/montana-mint.com\/lastbestnews\/wp-content\/uploads\/Davids-Head-copy-60x60.jpg 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 140px) 100vw, 140px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">David Crisp<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Ehrlick was writing about Town of Greece vs. Galloway, a 5-4 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that upheld a New York town\u2019s practice of holding invocations at the beginning of public meetings. Plaintiffs complained that the prayers were almost exclusively Christian and promoted specific religious beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>At its heart, the case was about how debased religious speech has to be before it is allowed into the public square. The court\u2019s ruling was hailed as a victory for pro-prayer forces, but it contained something in it to displease everyone.<\/p>\n<p>Neither the plaintiffs, nor the court\u2019s majority opinion, nor the dissent by Justice Elena Kagan disputed the right of legislative bodies to hold public prayers at their meetings. That has been established by long tradition. As Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, noted, Congress had a chaplain before we even had a First Amendment.<\/p>\n<p>Justice Kennedy also conceded that not every founding father liked that idea. James Madison, the brains behind the Constitution, thought that if members of Congress wanted a chaplain, they should pay for the office themselves rather than force taxpayers to pay to promulgate religious beliefs they may not share.<\/p>\n<p>Madison lost that argument, and public prayers have been part of legislative meetings ever since. That\u2019s OK with the Supreme Court, even if some citizens object; as both Justice Kennedy and Ehrlick point out, the Constitution does not guarantee citizens a right not be offended.<\/p>\n<p>True enough. My right to call Mr. Ehrlick\u2019s column festering swill is not abridged by whatever offense he might take at that characterization. But it is one thing for newspaper editors to trade insults; it is quite another when the government is involved, as even the court\u2019s majority conceded.<\/p>\n<p>The ruling in the case might have been different, Kennedy wrote, if the town of Greece had used invocations to proselytize or to condemn nonbelievers. He even conceded that the town may have occasionally crossed the line.<\/p>\n<p>For example, for years the town, perhaps through oversight, invited only Christians to give the invocations, even though other religions were present in the community. After plaintiffs began raising legal objections, one guest minister characterized objectors as a \u201cminority\u201d who are \u201cignorant of the history of our country,\u201d and another lamented that other towns did not have \u201cGod-fearing\u201d leaders.<\/p>\n<p>But sloppy bookkeeping and occasional slips are not enough reason to overturn public prayers that have a \u201cpermissible ceremonial purpose,\u201d Kennedy held. \u201cOnce it invites prayer into the public sphere,\u201d he wrote, \u201cgovernment must permit a prayer giver to address his or her own God or gods as conscience dictates, unfettered by what an administrator or judge considers to be nonsectarian.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Provided, of course, his or her conscience doesn\u2019t dictate praying that everybody who doesn\u2019t belong to his or her church is going to Hell. As Dahlia Lithwick put it in Slate magazine, \u201cFrom now on, sectarian prayer will be permissible until it isn\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In her dissent, Justice Kagan essentially argued that public prayers allowed by the majority weren\u2019t bland enough. One gets the feeling from her opinion that only prayers sapped of all religious sentiment would get under the high bar she sets.<\/p>\n<p>But she makes good points. Suppose, she wrote, a Muslim wants a traffic light or a zoning variance. She goes to the town council meeting but first has to endure a prayer \u201cin the name of God\u2019s only son Jesus Christ.\u201d Should she pray along in violation of her own beliefs or step outside, as the majority suggests, and risk setting the council against her?<div class=\"well\"><div class=\"dfad dfad_pos_1 dfad_first\" id=\"_ad_652\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/mjhWkW\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/lastbestnews.com\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/201703_capeair_variable.jpg\" alt=\"CapreAir_Variable\" width=\"510\" height=\"180\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18069\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/p>\n<p>Justice Kagan also notes that prayers in Congress and state legislatures precede debates exclusively among members of that body. If they agree they want to hear a prayer, that\u2019s their business.<\/p>\n<p>The average citizen can\u2019t go on the floor of Congress and enter the debate, but town council meetings are full of average citizens who want to participate in deliberations. In Montana, their right to do so is guaranteed by the state constitution.<\/p>\n<p>In such a setting, public prayer amounts to a mini-church service, Justice Kagan wrote, and the government has no business holding church.<\/p>\n<p>In a footnote, she also mentions that even some religious groups object to public prayers. They base that belief on a source even more hallowed than James Madison: Jesus Christ himself, who said that prayers should be a private matter between Christians and God, not an ostentatious display of public righteousness.<\/p>\n<p>Madison, who opposed not only chaplains but also national days of prayer, noted that the state of Virginia rejected a tax that would have supported all religions after churches united against it. They successfully argued, he wrote (the abbreviations are his own), \u201cthat the better proof of reverence for that holy name wd be not to profane it by making it a topic of legisl. discussion, &amp; particularly by making his religion the means of abridging the natural and equal rights of all men, in defiance of his own declaration that his Kingdom was not of this world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Madison had little patience for the argument that, unlike a tax, public prayers aren\u2019t coercive. Anything that government endorses, even just by resolution, is inherently coercive, he argued: \u201cAn advisory Govt is a contradiction in terms.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jesus and Madison both saw what America was becoming: A country that invites prayer into the public square, but only in a degraded, sapless fashion for purely ceremonial purposes. Real prayer, with real meaning, has no place there, and the Supreme Court can\u2019t change that.<\/p>\n<p>God bless America.<\/p>\n<p><em>David Crisp has worked for newspapers since 1979. 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